Obituaries

In Loving Memory of Tribal Elder,   Christine G. Riddle Allen Christine Grazelda Riddle Allen, 92, went home to be with her Lord on January 17, 2020, at her home in Klamath Falls, Oregon, while surrounded by family. At the time of death, she was the oldest known Modoc, Yahooskin Paiute elder in Klamath County. […]

In Loving Memory, Celebration of Life Service for Nadra Lynn Gallagher will be held in Klamath Falls, Oregon, on Saturday, November 16th at Noon – Klamath County Fairgrounds exhibit building #1 Potluck style lunch and (desserts-her favorite) immediately following service- Bring your favorite to share.

Rayson was a Modoc Indian of the Klamath Tribes. He was born on Jan. 14, 1947, in Klamath Falls, Ore. He was born to Modoc parents Bill and Rachel Tupper. He went home at the age of 72, to be with his Lord and Savior on July 28, 2019, with family surrounding his bedside. He […]

Memorial Services for Modoc Elder/Klamath Tribal Member- Rayson Tupper will be held: *Viewing: Tuesday- July 30th- Viewing and Visitation: 3pm-7pm at O’Hairs Funeral Home 515 Pine Street Klamath Falls, Oregon *Dig Grave: Wednesday 9am- Any men are welcome at Chief Schonchin Cemetery *Funeral Services: *11am: Thursday, August 1st – Memorial Services at O’Hairs Funeral Home […]

Rosa Faye Shadley Wilson was born on Dec. 8, 1937, to Edwin and Florence Shadley in Sprague River, Ore., and passed away on July 4, 2019, at home in Sprague River. Rosa lived most of her life in Sprague River. She went to school in Sprague River, Bonanza and Chiloquin. She married Marlin “Stogie” Wilson […]

In Loving Memory… Samuel Fast Buffalo Horse   Samuel Fast Buffalo Horse (aka Sammy) was born January 24, 1992. He was brutally taken from this world June12, 2019.  He grew up in Portland and Chiloquin Oregon. He left behind his parents, Sheila and Sam, his sisters Angeline, HappyStar and Zintkala, his brothers Warren, Bear, Clayton, Eli […]

In Loving Memory, Annabelle Summers Bates Annabelle Summers Bates, Coquille/Klamath was born at Klamath Agency September, 8. 1927 to Frank and Angeline Walker Summers.  She died in Klamath Falls, OR June 15, 2019. She was an enrolled member of the Klamath Tribes and grew up on the Klamath Indian Reservation.  She attended Chemewa Indian School […]

In Loving Memory, Madeline ‘Doodles’ Barkley-Claypool, a Klamath Falls resident and Klamath Tribal Member, passed away at Sky Lakes Medical Center on April 17, 2019. She was born on June 5, 1946, to Donald Barkley Sr. and Mary Chocktoot. “Doodles” loved to spend time with her sister “Beatles,” going to the casino and just enjoying life together. You could […]

In Loving Memory of our Beautiful Girl… Miss Theresa Ann “Itsy” Erlei went to be with our Creator peacefully in her home on May 10, 2019 in Chiloquin, Oregon at the age of 43. Theresa is survived by her daughter Georgene Tenorio, mothers, GeorGene Wright Erlei Nelson  and Pixie Souza both of Chiloquin, OR; brother, […]

Leroy “Ton” Jackson Jr., 61, died on Feb. 3, 2019, at his home surrounded by friends and family. Ton was born on May 18, 1957, in Klamath Falls, Ore. He was preceded in death by his father Leroy Jackson Sr. and his mother Catherine Wright Jackson. After graduating from Klamath Union High School, Ton continued […]

Hosie Jane Sheppard Winters (Tweet) passed away peacefully in the early hours on Friday, Nov, 30, 2018, at home with her husband by her side in Alturas, CA. Tweet was born on Nov. 19, 1957, in Klamath Falls, OR, to Marlyn and Mary Sheppard. Survivors include her husband Raymon Winters; step-sons Joey and Jimmy; step-daughter Marie; brother […]

Louisa Mae “Mouie Brown, 53, went home to be with her Lord on Dec. 2, 2018. Mouie was born on June 16, 1965, to Lupe Agnes Brown and Wauseka Brown Sr. She was born and raised in Chiloquin, Ore., where she was taught to know her native chores for a good life. In her younger […]

Stephen Lang, 76, passed away Saturday, November 17, 2018 at his home surrounded by his family.  Stephen was born to Ellsworth and Inez Lang on February 2, 1942 at the Klamath Agency near Chiloquin, Oregon. He grew up on the Ancestral home along the Williamson River spending countless hours with his Grandparents Tom and Lulu […]

In Loving Memory, Lynn Schonchin, Sr. – Klamath Tribal Historian On November 27, 2018 Lynn Schonchin Sr. “Pops” began his journey to be with his Creator, with his family by his side. He was a lifelong resident in Klamath County, with the exception of a few school years in Lincoln City. Lynn was born on […]

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In Memory of A Very Special Loved One…  The following obituary of tribal member Gordon Copeland, roll no. 393, has been prepared especially for the Klamath Tribes, submitted with a humble heart by his family and friends. Gordon Lee Copeland, (aka Walking Stick, Tall Bear, and Razor), passed from this life to be with his Lord […]

In Loving Memory, Frances Marie “Rennie” Crain Frances Marie “Rennie” Crain passed away peacefully at her home in Chiloquin Or., May 31, 2018, surrounded by her loved ones.  Rennie was born Frances Marie Brown September 11, 1936, in Klamath Falls, OR, to Aleway “Toy” Brown and the former Flora Aggie Schonchin. She was a Klamath […]

  Bill Tupper, 89, A Modoc Indian of the Klamath Tribes of Oregon, was born on February 9, 1929, at the Klamath Indian Agency, near Chiloquin Oregon. He was born to Edson Tupper and Josephine Jackson Tupper. He went home to be with his Lord and savior on May 30, 2018, with family at his […]

Nickey Roland Rich Jr., 31, went home to be with his Lord on May 12, 2018. Nick was born on April 24, 1987, to Nick and Kathy Rich. Nick graduated from Chiloquin High School in 2005 and later attended Klamath Community College. Nick worked for the Winema Hotshots until being employed at Columbia Forest Products. […]

In Loving Memory, Paula Woods passed away unexpectedly on April 17th, 2018. A Memorial Service will be held at 11:00am Monday, April 23rd, 2018 at St. Peter’s Catholic Church – 1150 Maxwell Rd. in Eugene, Oregon. She married Klamath Tribal Member, Lawrence (Beaver) Woods on July 20th, 1968 – The Love of her life. They […]

In Memory Of Our Loved One… Kamiken Lee Spino passed away on Thursday, October 26th, 2017 in Warm Spring Oregon. He was born December 27th, 1998 to Betty Vera Spino and Danny McGraw Jr. He was an enrolled member of The Confederated Tribe of the Warm Springs Reservation of Oregon. He went to schools in […]

In Loving Memory of Klamath Tribal Elder,

Known to many as “The Friendly Giant”, Rodolfo “Rudy” Escatel was born in Ashland, Oregon on November 28th 1951. He was welcomed into heaven’s gates on the evening of Dec. 5, 2017, after a courageous battle with cancer. He leaves his wife of 44 years, Carolyn Escatel; his sons, Eric Trygstad, Lane Arnett, and Harol […]

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Francis “Frankie” Robert Crispen Jr., July 13, – November 17, 2017. Spartan at Heart, healthy body, healthy spirit, and don’t forget the tattoos. When you bumped into Frankie, you would have been welcomed with a warm handshake, smile and a hug. Always a friend and encourager, he strove to be careful and thoughtful in his […]

Mercedez Alexiz Rasdal gained her angel wings on Oct.22nd, 2017, after an eight month battle with DIPG (brain cancer) . Mercedez was gifted to this world in Klamath Falls on May 22nd, 2006 to Eric Rasdal and Tyra Moore. She attended Head Start, Mills Elementary, and Ponderosa Middle School while making friends with all those […]

In Loving Memory,   Arnie Lee Eggsman Arnie Lee Whirlwind Eggsman, 32 went to be with his parents and loved ones on September 17, 2017 in Chiloquin, Oregon. Arnie graduated from Chiloquin High School and briefly attended Lane Community College in Eugene, Oregon. Arnie worked various jobs, but most recently working at Jeld-Wen where he […]

Wednesday, November 30, 1932  –  Tuesday, April 11, 2017 John “Jack” Harrison Ide, TSgt USAF (Ret.), PhD Edu, age 84, of Spokane, WA, passed away on Tuesday, April 11, 2017, at Copper Leaf Village in Ripon, WI. John was born November 30, 1932, in the Klamath Agency in Oregon, the son of John Henry and Evelyn Leola […]

JD was 73.  Born on Fort Klamath reservation in Chiloquin, OR, on September 28th, 1943 to Robert and Clarisse Dumont. He lost his battle with cancer on February 19, 2017 in his home surrounded by his family. JD moved to Ely in 1977. He was a hard worker who worked in Mining and in Railroad […]

Mary Alice Looper, age 66, of Red Oak, Oklahoma, passed away Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at the  McAlester Regional Hospital, McAlester, Oklahoma. Mary was born in Wilburton, Oklahoma on July 16, 1950, a daughter of the late Mary Frances (Anderson) and Hance  Phillips. Mary was a  homemaker.  She was of the Baptist faith. She was […]

Celebration of Life Service Friday, April 21, 2017 11:00am Beatty Valley Gospel Mission Pastor Crayton Jackson Final Resting Place Paiute Cemetery  *Thursday, April 20th – 9am – Tribal Administration Auditorium Per the request of his family, staff and Tribal Council are coordinating a small Honoring in the Tribal Administration Auditorium on Thursday, April 20, 2017 […]

Dorian Dea Lotches went home to be with her Lord and son, Aaron, on March 19, 2017.Dea was born on Nov. 7, 1973, to Doreen McNair, whom Dea joins in heaven.She graduated from College of Cosmetology and pursued her career. She was also employed by  and King-Wah restaurants.She loved her family and friends, the outdoor […]

 Grover Charles Clark Jr. “Bipper” left this earth to join his loved ones gone before him on Feb. 28,  2017, in Klamath Falls, Ore. Bipper was born on Aug. 22, 1966, in Klamath Falls to Grover Charles Clark and Ferol “Cutie” Jean McNair. He graduated from Sacred Heart High School in 1984, then moved to […]

Services will be held: Monday, February 13 at the Big Gym Chiloquin, Oregon Time: 11:00am A potluck style lunch will be held following the service at the Community Center on Main Street in Chiloquin, OR.  

Today we have lost a Beautiful Lady, but Heaven has gained an Angel… Services for Modoc- Klamath Tribal Elder, Linda David will be: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 Chiloquin Community Center Chiloquin, Oregon 1:00pm Don Gentry will Officiate *Graveside service and luncheon will follow

 Victor Leonardo Cruz of Klamath Falls, OR, passed away in Portland, OR on Tuesday, Jan. 24, 2017. He was born in Salem, OR on Jan. 5 1992 to    Leta Unive and Margarito Cruz. A father, son, brother, cousin, uncle and nephew he brought smiles to many. His infectious positive attitude, smooth talk and charm […]

In Loving Memory of our dear Loved One: Born October 2, 1934 to John Unive and Mildred Crain Unive. Went home on October 26, 2016 with loved ones by his side.   A Memorial Dinner will be held Saturday, November 5th at the goos oLgi gowa (Gathering Place) in Chiloquin, Oregon off Hwy 62  at […]

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  Leon Mickinnley “Boo” Weeks, Jr was born to Leon Weeks, Sr. and Marcella Harrington on July 20, 1966. He passed away in Klamath Falls, Ore., on Oct. 6, 2016. He was raised in Chiloquin, Ore., and went to school in Chiloquin and Klamath Falls. Leon worked as a construction laborer for 2 years in […]

Richard C. Sconchin passed away unexpectedly on Sept. 26, 2016, at the age of 65. Richard was born in Klamath Falls, Ore., on June 26, 1951, to Raymond R. and Darlene J. (Hayes) Sconchin. A great-great-grandson of John Schonchin, Richard was proud of his Modoc ancestry and was enrolled in the Klamath Tribes. He was […]

klamath-tribe-list FYI for Members.  We are seeking information for the attached whereabouts of those listed. Attached is a current list of Klamath Tribal members whose whereabouts are unknown or whose records do not otherwise contain mailing addresses. These members may have a settlement due them from the Indian Trust Settlement (Cobell v. Salazar). The members […]

Chalayne Rae Treetop, 40, passed away on Sept. 15, 2016, in Chiloquin, Ore. She was born on Oct. 14, 1975, in Klamath Falls, Ore., to Michael Raymond Treetop, Jr. and Rose Mary (Jackson) Treetop. She attended Chiloquin High School. She enjoyed doing bead-work, Indian dance, traveling, cooking and spending time with friends and family. She […]

Went to Creator on Aug. 17, 2016. The family is hosting a memorial dinner in his honor Sept. 4, 2016, at noon in the Beatty Community Center. Friends and family are encouraged to share their memories.

Nora Ellen (McAuliffe) Hawkins, 82, passed away on Sept. 4, 2016, at her residence in Dairy, Ore. Funeral services will be held in St. Francis Cabrini Catholic Church in Bonanza, Ore., on Saturday, Sept. 10, 2016, beginning with recitation of the holy rosary at 10:30 a.m. followed by a mass of Christian burial at 11 a.m. […]

Martin Richard Ochoa Bettles (Himiin timiniim) Painted Wolf January 26, 1991 – September 3, 2016 Martin Richard Ochoa Bettles, 25, resident of Portland and former Mission resident, died Saturday, September 3, 2016, in Portland, Oregon. Dressing Ceremony will be held at 2:00pm Thursday, September 8, 2016, at Burns Mortuary of Pendleton Chapel. The Washat service […]

Eloise passed away on August 22, 2016 in Chiloquin, OR. She was born on February 10, 1934 in , OK to Sherman Buddy Moppin, Sr. and Mildred George. She loved all her family, friends, and tribal people. The many prayers she said over her land, animals, and tribal people still stand. Be blessed knowing she […]

In Loving Memory of a Very Special Indian Cowboy … Vincent “Buttons” Bodner, Jr. Vincent “Buttons” Bodner Jr. was born on March 25, 1929, at the Klamath Agency in Chiloquin, Ore. He went home to be with his Lord and Savior on Aug. 11, 2016, in Klamath Falls, Ore. Poppy Buttons was an 87-year-old Modoc […]

  Ila Ann Miller, beloved wife, mother, grandma, sister and aunt, passed away on July 21, 2016, in Sky Lakes Medical Center while surrounded by family and friends. She was the wife of Erwin Miller Sr. and they shared 39 years of marriage together. Ila was born in Klamath Falls to the late Clarence “Bud” […]

Raymond “Running Bear” T. Barkley Jr. passed away on Feb. 12, 2016, in Klamath Falls, Ore., with family by his side. He was born on Sept. 26, 1964, in Klamath Falls to Raymond T. Barkley Sr. and Claudette R. Miller. He was primarily raised in Klamath Falls and Chiloquin and attended Chiloquin High School. After […]

Melanie LaJean “Buzz” Jackson was born in Klamath Falls, Ore., on Sept. 19, 1965, to Carroll F. “Skip” Jackson and Loyette L. “Lucy” Moppin Jackson. Buzz was the youngest of five daughters. She loved camping, hunting and being in the woods. Buzz was a cultural resource technician for the Winema National Forest. She was also […]

Lewis “Corky” Gibbons, 83, passed away on Feb. 25, 2016. He was born at Klamath Agency on July 5, 1932, the fourth youngest of nine children. He was a member of the Klamath Tribes. He leaves one sister Patty Dumont, 36 of his 55 nieces and nephews, and many cousins. Corky was a lifelong resident […]

Betty Rose Brown, 74, “Went home to meet her Maker,” Monday, July 18, 2011, at her Beatty, Ore. residence with her husband of nearly 50 years and her husband’s sister, Renie, at her side. Betty was born March 22, 1937, in Belle Fourche, S.D. to her parents, Jake Mauch and the former Irene Heger. Betty […]

In Loving Memory, A Celebration of Life Lunch/Potluck will be held for, Charles E. (Chaz) Kimbol Jr. All Friends and Family Invited When: Monday, February 15, 2016 Where: Chiloquin Christian Center, Chiloquin, Oregon (Former Assembly of God Church) Time: 11:00am- 1:30pm Note: At his request, there will be no formal services. Please join the family […]

In Loving Memory of Robert Vaughn, Sr Robert Harold Vaughn, Sr. died in Klamath Falls, OR on December 26, 2015. A service of Tribute & Love will be held at Chiloquin Christian Center on Friday, January 1, 2016 at 1 PM. Cremation and inurnment will be held at Eternal Hills. Robert was born in San […]

Dustin “Dutch” Townsend Sr. arrived on April 28, 1968, and flew home with the eagles on Dec. 1, 2015. Dutch loved the woods/outdoors, whether he was firefighting, hunting, fishing or just “because.” He was a member of the Klamath Tribes and most proud of his “Paiute” ancestry. When he was younger, he was introduced to […]

Phyllis Mae Walker (1928 – 2015) Phyllis was born on April 28, 1928, in Oakland, Calif. She went safely home with the Lord on Nov. 25, 2015, in Klamath Falls, Ore. Phyllis was a member of the Klamath Tribes. She was preceded in death by her parents, Willy Burns Sr. and Alta Noneo; husband, Dale […]

Richard Lee Barney (1940 – 2015) Richard Lee Barney, 75, passed away peacefully at Hospice House in Bend, Ore., on Nov. 22, 2015, after a fight with cancer. He was born in Chiloquin on Sept. 16, 1940, to Levi and Nora Barney. He attended Chiloquin High School and Oregon Institute of Technology. He lived on […]

It is with great sadness that the Klamath Tribal Council shares the information below from our Yurok friends and tribe. Our Council and his friends in this area are still in shock to hear of the sudden loss of such a great man and leader of the Yurok people.  We are praying for your tribe […]

Marylyn H. Sheppard-Blair passed away on Monday, Sept. 27, 2010, at the young age of 47. The wake will begin at 6 p.m. Friday, Oct. 1, 2010. A service of tribute and love will be at 1 p.m. Saturday, Oct. 2, 2010. Both will take place in Chiloquin, Ore., at the Big Gym. At the […]

Tommy went on to be with our Creator on Oct. 1, 2015. Tommy grew up in Cave Junction and graduated from Illinois High School. He then went on to graduate from Oregon Institute of Technology in Klamath Falls, OR, with a major in mechanics. Tom then joined the U.S. Army and served two tours in […]

Roy Hill Obituary – Klamath Falls, OR | Herald And News  Roy Milton Hill, a resident of Bonanza, died Sept. 8, 2015, at the age of 79. A memorial service will be at 2 p.m., Saturday, Oct. 3, 2015, at Triad School, 2450 Summers Lane. O’Hair Funeral Chapel is in charge of the arrangements. Roy […]

Merris Collins Obituary – Klamath Falls, OR | Herald And News  Entered into Heaven Sept. 22, 2015. Born Nov. 1, 1953, to the late Skip and Lucy Jackson. She fell head over heels for Jim Collins and married in 1977. She is survived by children, Twyla and Schmoo Miller, Wylee Collins, Washi and Miss Collins, […]

Ramon “Porky” Milford Jimenez, 81, quietly answered to his final call while on this earth to enter his eternal heavenly home on September 24, 2015. He was born on July 25, 1934, on the Klamath Indian Reservation at the Klamath Indian Agency to Modesto and Ima Lena (Lotches) Jimenez. He was an enrolled member of […]

In Loving Memory of Christopher Le Parazoo  December 02, 1974 to July 01, 2015   Christopher was born in Burbank, California to Lucy Ann Parazoo- Ramirez and Leland Parazoo on December 2, 1974. He was raised in Chino, California and was a journeyman electrician for the state of California. Christopher was enrolled into the Klamath […]

Louis, Pamela Kay In loving memory of a wonderful, loving grandmother, mother, sister, aunt, and friend who passed away peacefully at Hospice House in Vernon, B.C. on July 8th, 2015 with her family by her side. Pam was born on September 8, 1948 in Klamath Falls, Oregon. She came to Canada in 1972 and settled […]

Leroy Jackson Sr. was born August 22, 1935, at the Klamath Agency on the former Klamath Reservation in Oregon and passed away on July 6, 2015.  His final days were spent with his wife and loved ones at his home in Chiloquin, OR.  At his request, graveside services were at 10 a.m., Saturday, July 11, 2015, […]

Anna Marie Shadley, 51, went home to be with her Lord and Savior on Monday, June 29, 2015, with family by her side at her home in Chiloquin, Ore. Anna was born in Klamath Falls, Ore., on May 18, 1964. She was the daughter of Frances R. Jackson and Carl S. Jackson. She grew up […]

Nancy Marie Ridenour, 77, Chiloquin, passed away May 14, 2015, with family by her side.  Nancy was born Feb. 19, 1938, at Klamath Indian Agency, OR., to Clarence and Irma Gentry.  She married Sidney Ridenour, her high school sweetheart, on Dec. 31. 1957.  Together, they had five children:  Anna, Donna, Jeanna, Sidney Jr. and Daniel. […]

Richard Kean Tupper Sr. was born on Oct. 22, 1950, in Klamath Falls, OR., to Bill Duffy and the late Rachel Tupper.  He went home to be with his Lord on Feb. 19, 2015, with family members at his side.  Richard lived in Sprague River, OR., as he was growing up.  he went to several […]

Aimee was born Jan. 5, 1978 to Lou Erlei & Gorgene Nelson-Wright in Klamath Falls, OR. Aimee was a strong beautful person inside and out, just full of love and compassion, giving anything to help her family & others, she was a beautiful dancer and an awesome designer, she always had a special touch to […]

Janine “Jake” Carole Kness February 22, 1973-February 4, 2015 Janine was born in Reno, Nevada on February 22, 1973 and passed away on February 4, 2015, due to complications from Lymes Disease. In her heart she wanted to be well for her family and their future.  She attended Schurz Elementary School and later attended Yerington […]

May Evelyn Crume (Challis) passed away Jan. 1, 2015, at her residence in Klamath Falls, Ore. May was born to Frank “Lefty” and Matilda “Tilly” Challis in Klamath Falls on May 4, 1934. May grew up on the F.M. Challis Farm/Ranch in Hildebrand, Ore., with her six sisters Vera, Verla, Anne, Virginia, Carol and Frankie. […]

Ester Jane Castellanos Cummings was born Sept. 25, 1948, and started her journey home on the wings of an eagle  Jan. 26, 2015. Ester was born to Marvin G. Isaacs and Ruth M. Herkshan.   As a child, she enjoyed going to Wiard Park, taking long walks, swimming, and spending time with her lifelong friend, […]

Alfred Leo Smith, a Klamath Tribal member from Chiloquin, Oregon, was born November 6, 1919, at Modoc Point, Oregon to his mother Delia Smith Jackson, daughter of David Smith of Grand Ronde and Emma Crawford Ball of Klamath Agency.  His father’s name is unknown. Al grew up on the Williamson River until he was sent […]

Mychele Morrill passed away suddenly on Wednesday, October 15 at Tillamook Regional Medical Center.  She was born in Billings, Montana and lived in North Portland, graduating from Jefferson High School.  She worked a good part of her life in jobs in the Native American community in the Portland area and was part of the Modoc […]

Dona was born on July 19, 1964 to Rosalie and John, she went home to the heavens on November 24, 2014. Dona was a very caring, kind-hearted, beautiful woman.  She devoted her life to her family, friends, work and leisure activities.  She has made an impression on  people throughout her life. She is survived by […]

Gloria was born Dec. 30, 1953, in Klamath Falls, OR. to Carl “Corky” Jackson and Eloise Moppin-Ohles. She went home to be with the Lord Nov. 14, 2014.  Gloria is survived by her husband Marvin “Jake” McWilliams; mother, Eloise Moppin-Ohles; brothers, Crayton Jackson Sr., Tim Wood, John Sherman Wood, John Sherman, Arvid Hoaglen JR., Gilbert […]

Raymond Mathew Jackson was born Jan. 5, 1931, in Klamath Falls, OR., he was an enrolled tribal member and an elder.  He lived in Klamath County most of his life.  He passed away Sept. 25, 2014, of natural causes.  At his request, graveside services were  at Chief Schonchin Cemetery in Beatty Saturday, Oct 4 at […]

Harley passed away September 15, 2014 in Klamath Falls, Oregon.  He was born February 3, 1956 in Klamath Falls to Vernon Lee Joe and Birdie Mae Tupper Joe.  He is preceded in death by his mother and father, Grandmother Ethel “Cookie” Walker, Grandfather, Woody Joe, Sr., Uncle Ivan Joe, Jr., Uncles Ivan Joe, Terry Walker, […]